No offence to the poster - I'm mightily pleased to be able to download this. Instead I want to discuss the actual contents.
This contains a handful of film clips that any regular on Just Add Cones will already have (eg KQED, San Tropez, promo videos). It has a Bob Harris (Old Grey Whistle Test) narrative connecting a few interviews with peripheral people from the era, the best known of whom is Norman Smith. It also contains some excerpts from audio interviews with members of the band (albeit nothing new).
The biggest problem is the fact that the vast bulk of the DVD is spent discussing stuff that predated or postdated Ummagumma. Very little time is spent discussing the actual contents and only two tracks get special mention - Grantchester Meadows and Careful with that Axe, Eugene. The album is panned by all contributors. There is no discussion of the making of the live album, the missing live track that John Peel was supposed to hold a copy of, the making of any any of the tracks by Wright, Mason or Gilmour. They even talk about the weird sounds that Waters sings without mentioning Pict.
IMHO the live album is v good. The studio album is a hard listen but I do like The Narrow Way as well as GM. At the time of release the album would have been part of the alternative rock scene where such an experimental approach would have been seen as worthwhile even if the results were less than perfect. It would have appealed to a certain type of intellectual rock fan, who also had albums by Frank Zappa, Captain Beefheart, Amon Duul II and other emerging prog bands. The band were seen as the pre-eminant left field band and not at all part of the mainstream. That is virtually overlooked.
Thus, the DVD is a great missed opportunity. No one who buys a DVD of possibly the lease well known PF LP is going to be disappointed if they actually discussed the album mentioned on the cover. Yet they virtually escape any genuine analysis. Good grief - we already know it isn't the best album.
I absolutely agree with you. To be totally, brutally honest, I think that most of these documentary DVDs that I have been posting recently are pretty terrible. Oh, there are bright spots here & there. But, overall, in my view, they are a pathetic attempt to pull some $$ from the pockets of the fans. ... which, of course, is why I have been posting them here..
I would like to defend Umma Gumma. Granted that the studio stuff is fluff - while interesting, it does not approach the epic works found on the live disk. The 4 live tracks on Umma Gumma provided the epiphany, the peak experience, the ultimate nirvana of a live performance in quality sound that would not be available for some years. Those 4 tracks drip with energy, passion and psychedelia that remains fresh today - still able to raise the hair on the back of my neck after all these years.
Many years passed after UG's release before we had similar or better quality live performances available that delivered the spark and fireworks that UG does. Pompeii had a sterility that prevented it from matching the raw energy that UG could muster on every live track.
We are all spoiled by the many great performances available today. Yet I would still take the live disc to my desert isle, along with a few others by PF (Meddle, WYWH, AHM), the Mahavishnu Orchestra, Cream & Jimi Hendrix, plus John McLauhlin's "Devotion" LP and a few by Miles Davis (Bitches Brew, Jack Johnson & In a Silent Way) and a few by John Coltrane.
Thanks for sharing your candid comments about these videos, which may have saved me from making an unfortunate purchase.
I absolutely agree that the Ummagumma album is a completely worthwhile purchase. The live tracks, especially, are a beauty to behold.
The documentary, well, it's not the best. Maybe worth watching, if you've got a free evening. But, hardly something that you'll phone the neighbors about.
If you have not already done so, please enjoy these -
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thanks dear Dr.....with spanish subtitles...damn it, finally some docus I will understand.
keep'em going all this Rock
Milestones pleass!!!
goa
No offence to the poster - I'm mightily pleased to be able to download this. Instead I want to discuss the actual contents.
This contains a handful of film clips that any regular on Just Add Cones will already have (eg KQED, San Tropez, promo videos). It has a Bob Harris (Old Grey Whistle Test) narrative connecting a few interviews with peripheral people from the era, the best known of whom is Norman Smith. It also contains some excerpts from audio interviews with members of the band (albeit nothing new).
The biggest problem is the fact that the vast bulk of the DVD is spent discussing stuff that predated or postdated Ummagumma. Very little time is spent discussing the actual contents and only two tracks get special mention - Grantchester Meadows and Careful with that Axe, Eugene. The album is panned by all contributors. There is no discussion of the making of the live album, the missing live track that John Peel was supposed to hold a copy of, the making of any any of the tracks by Wright, Mason or Gilmour. They even talk about the weird sounds that Waters sings without mentioning Pict.
IMHO the live album is v good. The studio album is a hard listen but I do like The Narrow Way as well as GM. At the time of release the album would have been part of the alternative rock scene where such an experimental approach would have been seen as worthwhile even if the results were less than perfect. It would have appealed to a certain type of intellectual rock fan, who also had albums by Frank Zappa, Captain Beefheart, Amon Duul II and other emerging prog bands. The band were seen as the pre-eminant left field band and not at all part of the mainstream. That is virtually overlooked.
Thus, the DVD is a great missed opportunity. No one who buys a DVD of possibly the lease well known PF LP is going to be disappointed if they actually discussed the album mentioned on the cover. Yet they virtually escape any genuine analysis. Good grief - we already know it isn't the best album.
Dear X -
I absolutely agree with you. To be totally, brutally honest, I think that most of these documentary DVDs that I have been posting recently are pretty terrible. Oh, there are bright spots here & there. But, overall, in my view, they are a pathetic attempt to pull some $$ from the pockets of the fans. ... which, of course, is why I have been posting them here..
I would like to defend Umma Gumma. Granted that the studio stuff is fluff - while interesting, it does not approach the epic works found on the live disk. The 4 live tracks on Umma Gumma provided the epiphany, the peak experience, the ultimate nirvana of a live performance in quality sound that would not be available for some years. Those 4 tracks drip with energy, passion and psychedelia that remains fresh today - still able to raise the hair on the back of my neck after all these years.
Many years passed after UG's release before we had similar or better quality live performances available that delivered the spark and fireworks that UG does. Pompeii had a sterility that prevented it from matching the raw energy that UG could muster on every live track.
We are all spoiled by the many great performances available today. Yet I would still take the live disc to my desert isle, along with a few others by PF (Meddle, WYWH, AHM), the Mahavishnu Orchestra, Cream & Jimi Hendrix, plus John McLauhlin's "Devotion" LP and a few by Miles Davis (Bitches Brew, Jack Johnson & In a Silent Way) and a few by John Coltrane.
Thanks for sharing your candid comments about these videos, which may have saved me from making an unfortunate purchase.
I absolutely agree that the Ummagumma album is a completely worthwhile purchase. The live tracks, especially, are a beauty to behold.
The documentary, well, it's not the best. Maybe worth watching, if you've got a free evening. But, hardly something that you'll phone the neighbors about.
If you have not already done so, please enjoy these -
http://just-add-cones.blogspot.com/2009/05/remix-umma.html
http://just-add-cones.blogspot.com/2009/05/remix-gumma.html
They're lots of fun for the Ummagumma enthusiast!!
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