Thursday, December 8, 2011

Pink Floyd - 1970-07-16 - London


This is a Doinker tape. That's a name that means quality. And, I have to say, it is an incredible tape. However, it is shorter than another outstanding tape that I shared earlier. Get'em both & compare. There are so many worse ways to spend an afternoon...

8 comments:

Dr. Forrester said...

Pink Floyd Paris Theatre 1970-07-16 reel to reel PHENOMENAL SOUND QUALITY

This show was broadcast by the BBC, and is known among Pink Floyd traders as "BBC 1970". But, you've never heard it like this.

The rumor is that this reel came as a direct copy from the BBC master reel. It shows...

Setlist: Runtime about 50 minutes

The Embryo
Green Is The Colour
Set The Controls For The Heart Of The Sun
If
Atom Heart Mother (with choir and orchestra)

Lineage: MR->Reel ->Sound Forge 6.0 ->Flac via Flac Frontend, level 6, sectors aligned and verified

A quick note: This wasn't lifted from some other site, or dredged up from some out-of-print boot cd or lp...

Enjoy!

A DoinkerTape

mahavishnu floyd said...

This is great, but missing "Fat Old Sun."

Looking forward to seeing all the Doinker, MOB and MOTB releases together here on the best Floyd site in the world.

Dr. Forrester said...

I did say that this source was shorter...

I did share all of the releases by This Place Records (MOB's label) a little while ago... and a few of his DG compilation releases during the Radio Shows series....

Anonymous said...

Good sound, but quite obviously from a (transcription?) disc source - ticks and pops everywhere, and some audible rumble.

Thanks for all the great stuff!

Anonymous said...

thanks for the post...
well I keep the Harvested Mono reiusse of Mooed Music...
because there's too much noise surface sound on this recording [the Doinker one] too make me believe that it comes from a tape - and even a master tape...

Dr. Forrester said...

I absolutely agree that the lack of Fat Old Sun and the presence of the pops both suggest that it came from vinyl.

mahavishnu floyd said...

While I have spent a lot of time enjoying Mooed Music Revision A and Harvested's other version from BBC Archives 1970-1971 (although that is not for purists), the best version may be the BBC Mono Masters that I found here http://just-add-cones.blogspot.com/2011/04/pf-1970-07-16-bbc-mono-master-paris.html

However, the BBC Mono Masters version needs speed correction and editing out the John Peel dialogue.

I compared the track "If" from Doinker to the BBC Mono Masters (MOB). The former sounds more live, with a more natural sounding guitar string, perhaps the result of having vinyl's midrange magic, at the expense of background noise, but the latter had better balance at the frequency extremes, though it sounds a bit sterile, MOB's version sounds like it is from a master or lower gen source than Doinker's. Also, the slow natural sustain of the final note before audience applause is cut on Doinker's version - which is an abomination in my book.

By the way, on most versions mentioned above I heard a little glitch on the final fading note before the applause, but I did not hear this on Godfather's version. Who would have thought that a lowly commercial version would offer an improvement in that one respect. However, Godfather has a whooshing sound in the background not present on other versions. Fortunately, the glitch is not present on Mooed Music, Revision A, which has great sound, but emphasizes sibilants more than MOB's BBC Mono Masters. Since Harvested's Mooed has the correct speed, that is my current favorite go-to version for a very stony evening.

Mooed = http://just-add-cones.blogspot.com/2011/11/005-mooed-music-rev.html

Dr. Forrester said...

Rather than fuss with a version that we *think* came from a transcription LP, here is a version that absolutely did come from one -

http://hotfile.com/dl/137192063/8bc6e5b/PF19700716T.rar.html